And that is the worst part, Beck. That's how you take the comment of me saying you're not a good person. You think of a way to manipulate people. That's just what you do.
You know what people want? Legitimate heroes who save them because it's the right thing to do, not because it makes them look good. Do you think Captain America does it to get his name out there? Do you think Peter does? It's manipulation, Quentin. In the worst way. It makes you quite likely to be a violent super villain one day.
[His reaction is odd. It's almost as if he's silently and seriously considering that option for a moment. Then there's a frown as he says.]
All I really want is for people to take me and my work seriously. I want them to really pay attention.
[Heroics had only been a means to an end. People paid attention to heroes - at least that's the impression he got out of showy heroes like Iron Man. It wasn't the best example and of course there's more to Tony than just his blunt attitude.]
Happy with it? No. Use it as an excuse to cause physical and mental harm to other people? Also no. I've said it once, I'll say it again. Be an actual hero. You'll actually be respected.
You really still don't trust me at my word? After all I went through there...
[He at least does a good acting job of sounding hurt again. But he doesn't want David using his power and seeing that he is indeed lying about being in Jeopardy.]
Marco has broken into my home and spied on me constantly. He's the one you should be calling bad.
As for Peter, I contacted him the instant we got out of the crisis in Jeopardy and we've met up and have made arrangements. He's more understanding than you are.
I'm sure you have. And I'll spend quite a bit of time worrying about him. Because you seem hellbent on destroying him. He's more forgiving. Spider-Man is like that. But me? I'm a mutant. We were hunted to nearly extinction. We aren't very 'turn the other cheek'.
Who's talking about Spider-Man. I'm talking about Peter.
[Yes, he's seeing them as two different entities. Not literally, but he is separating them in his mind. He's convinced Peter should abandon the Spider-Man concept, thinking he doesn't really want that responsibility and that he just wants to be a normal kid. Destroying Spider-Man is a goal, but not Peter - even though they really are completely linked so one affects the other. Or more specifically, he wants to destroy Spider-Man's image as a hero. Force Peter to stop. It makes sense in his own head...]
Peter is Spider-Man. Spider-Man is Peter. They are as entwined as myself and Prodigy. As you and, apparently, the masks you insist you cannot function without. It's just depressing.
But he doesn't need to be Spider-Man. He's just a kid. Everybody needs to stop telling him he has this big responsibility to be the hero. Let the kid be a kid.
[So essentially he's encouraging lack of responsibility under the nicer guise of saying he should be himself and do what he wants without thought for others... Like Beck does.]
No, it's not his big responsibility to be a hero, Quentin. But his choices are his own. And that's where you're different from him. How you know you're not a true hero. A hero fights, no matter the cost to themself. Do I wish that wasn't the path he was on? Yes. But I think he could no more accept standing by than I could. Than I can.
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28/11/19 17:13 (UTC)(no subject)
28/11/19 17:24 (UTC)[With his tech. Have a projector follow him around...]
If I looked like a cute, fluffy alien, maybe people would be more sympathetic.
[As always, David's words and suggestions are being twisted here by Beck's thoughts on what he should do to make people more receptive to him.]
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28/11/19 21:42 (UTC)And that is the worst part, Beck. That's how you take the comment of me saying you're not a good person. You think of a way to manipulate people. That's just what you do.
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28/11/19 22:18 (UTC)You call it manipulation. I call it giving the people what they want to see.
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29/11/19 03:50 (UTC)You know what people want? Legitimate heroes who save them because it's the right thing to do, not because it makes them look good. Do you think Captain America does it to get his name out there? Do you think Peter does? It's manipulation, Quentin. In the worst way. It makes you quite likely to be a violent super villain one day.
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29/11/19 05:10 (UTC)All I really want is for people to take me and my work seriously. I want them to really pay attention.
[Heroics had only been a means to an end. People paid attention to heroes - at least that's the impression he got out of showy heroes like Iron Man. It wasn't the best example and of course there's more to Tony than just his blunt attitude.]
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29/11/19 05:35 (UTC)[There's a lot of bitterness in his voice.]
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29/11/19 05:49 (UTC)[A blunt question. One David can get proof of these days.]
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29/11/19 05:55 (UTC)[And he's not answering the actual question.]
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29/11/19 05:56 (UTC)[And there's the problem, Beck. All bark. No bite.]
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29/11/19 06:01 (UTC)[He at least does a good acting job of sounding hurt again. But he doesn't want David using his power and seeing that he is indeed lying about being in Jeopardy.]
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29/11/19 07:15 (UTC)As for Peter, I contacted him the instant we got out of the crisis in Jeopardy and we've met up and have made arrangements. He's more understanding than you are.
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29/11/19 15:26 (UTC)I'm sure you have. And I'll spend quite a bit of time worrying about him. Because you seem hellbent on destroying him. He's more forgiving. Spider-Man is like that. But me? I'm a mutant. We were hunted to nearly extinction. We aren't very 'turn the other cheek'.
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29/11/19 20:17 (UTC)[Yes, he's seeing them as two different entities. Not literally, but he is separating them in his mind. He's convinced Peter should abandon the Spider-Man concept, thinking he doesn't really want that responsibility and that he just wants to be a normal kid. Destroying Spider-Man is a goal, but not Peter - even though they really are completely linked so one affects the other. Or more specifically, he wants to destroy Spider-Man's image as a hero. Force Peter to stop. It makes sense in his own head...]
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29/11/19 22:05 (UTC)(no subject)
29/11/19 22:12 (UTC)[So essentially he's encouraging lack of responsibility under the nicer guise of saying he should be himself and do what he wants without thought for others... Like Beck does.]
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