I don’t know why he’s mad at me, without stereotyping gods. He doesn’t allow space in the conversation for me, and yet he keeps starting conversations. He should come with a user’s manual.
I half expected him to have left some pointed message with you.
[Well you can't hear the exasperated sigh, but it's there.]
Listen, I WANT to help you. Dealing with Loki can be difficult. But I actually can do nothing when I'm not given data to work with.
What were you two talking about before he suggested talking to me? Did he say why you should talk to me? Was there any indication beyond him pointing you to the account of a stranger?
I understand that data and context are everything when presented with an open question like “Why is Loki difficult?”
Maybe he thought that I’d share; in which case, yet another gross miscalculation on his part. If I’m not comfortable addressing things directly with him, then I’m not going to be comfortable discussing it with you either. I just wanted to know if there was anything I could do to avoid affronting him.
Did he suggest you talk to anyone else? Or just me?
[A David denied data was definitely going to sit here and let his mind stew on what it was that he specifically could answer that no other from home might be able to provide. And given the way the guy is talking and the 'mysteries' of Loki and not wanting to share them... Well, he's got about twelve different things starting as rough guesses.
If he had to number them from most to least likely, emotionally connections would be just above 'least likely'.]
Trust me, if he wanted to annoy you, he would have sent you to the Kid. He'd drive you up the wall just because you SPOKE to Ikol.
If it was me, he'd expect communication and probably a talk about how over thinking is bad. Or not enough self care is bad. Or trying to expect the usual rules that apply to humans apply to him can be problematic and ruin things. Not that I learned that one well myself.
Sending you to me is because he expects I serve as an object lesson, a 'don't do what he did' thing.
Unfortunately lists of things I've done that he's aware of and which were possibly foolish from some angles of observation isn't short?
Why do you call him Ikol? Aside from it being Loki backwards.
I… see. I’m not giving him a special set of rules because he’s a god. I haven’t yet, and that doesn’t seem to stop him from seeking me out. If that’s it, he’ll survive.
[ Tim isn’t going to touch the other points with a ten foot pole. ]
One has to have a means by which to differentiate the three of them. And there is weight and significance to that name.
It's less that he needs a special set of rules and more that he doesn't work in a way that a normal human would understand. Hell, he doesn't work in ways that a Metahuman would normally understand. While he looks human, it's more fair to consider him an alien in most regards. One with whole different cultural expectations and experiential weights that make interacting with him different from how you'd talk to another person.
Running up against that difference can be really hard. Lord knows I ran head first into it not long after we came here and I realized some things. But that's not here or there.
[ They haven't had much if any contact since the last Loki Incident, but him being part of that is sign enough that he and Loki are close. So it's without any hesitation that Stephen reaches out his way too.
No pre-amble, he's not calling for small talk. ]
Are you aware of Loki's current status?
[ The wording is a little clinical, but in part that feels apt. ]
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15/10/22 00:42 (UTC)And what you expect to hear from me.
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15/10/22 00:57 (UTC)I half expected him to have left some pointed message with you.
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15/10/22 01:30 (UTC)Listen, I WANT to help you. Dealing with Loki can be difficult. But I actually can do nothing when I'm not given data to work with.
What were you two talking about before he suggested talking to me? Did he say why you should talk to me? Was there any indication beyond him pointing you to the account of a stranger?
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15/10/22 01:45 (UTC)Maybe he thought that I’d share; in which case, yet another gross miscalculation on his part. If I’m not comfortable addressing things directly with him, then I’m not going to be comfortable discussing it with you either. I just wanted to know if there was anything I could do to avoid affronting him.
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15/10/22 01:47 (UTC)[A David denied data was definitely going to sit here and let his mind stew on what it was that he specifically could answer that no other from home might be able to provide. And given the way the guy is talking and the 'mysteries' of Loki and not wanting to share them... Well, he's got about twelve different things starting as rough guesses.
If he had to number them from most to least likely, emotionally connections would be just above 'least likely'.]
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15/10/22 02:00 (UTC)No, just you. Who knows? He goal could be to annoy me.
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15/10/22 02:03 (UTC)If it was me, he'd expect communication and probably a talk about how over thinking is bad. Or not enough self care is bad. Or trying to expect the usual rules that apply to humans apply to him can be problematic and ruin things. Not that I learned that one well myself.
Sending you to me is because he expects I serve as an object lesson, a 'don't do what he did' thing.
Unfortunately lists of things I've done that he's aware of and which were possibly foolish from some angles of observation isn't short?
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15/10/22 02:14 (UTC)I… see. I’m not giving him a special set of rules because he’s a god. I haven’t yet, and that doesn’t seem to stop him from seeking me out. If that’s it, he’ll survive.
[ Tim isn’t going to touch the other points with a ten foot pole. ]
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15/10/22 02:17 (UTC)It's less that he needs a special set of rules and more that he doesn't work in a way that a normal human would understand. Hell, he doesn't work in ways that a Metahuman would normally understand. While he looks human, it's more fair to consider him an alien in most regards. One with whole different cultural expectations and experiential weights that make interacting with him different from how you'd talk to another person.
Running up against that difference can be really hard. Lord knows I ran head first into it not long after we came here and I realized some things. But that's not here or there.
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15/10/22 02:34 (UTC)Ideally he'll help to keep you out of trouble.
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15/10/22 13:50 (UTC)He will. I just hope I don't overwork him in doing so.
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15/10/22 14:38 (UTC)You haven't known me long, but I think you've known me long enough to know that I get into trouble.
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15/10/22 18:29 (UTC)I'm not, though. I'm open with you.
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15/10/22 18:54 (UTC)audio,
15/10/22 19:45 (UTC)No pre-amble, he's not calling for small talk. ]
Are you aware of Loki's current status?
[ The wording is a little clinical, but in part that feels apt. ]